ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent Jon Karl said that this impeachment trial so far has been all about the facts.
"When you look at what the house managers did they laid out the facts and brought actual new information, new video, and the recordings of the cries for help from the capitol police. This was definitive and something that we will be talking about anytime we talk about Donald Trump," said Karl while on the "Len Berman and Michael Riedel In The Morning" show.
Michael asked Jon Karl if he believes that Trump will try and get revenge on those that stabbed him in the back.
"He is, I believe, obsessed with getting revenge on those people like Liz Cheney. He wants revenge on anyone who betrayed him," said Karl.
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